Escape the Friend Zone and Start the Chase

Lena: Miles, I was just reading about this common dating trap where you’re stuck as the "best friend," and you’re doing all the heavy lifting—texting first, planning every hangout—while he just... exists. It’s frustrating, right?

Miles: It really is. And here is the counterintuitive part: most women try to fix it by giving more—more attention, more reassurance. But research actually shows that the harder someone works for a reward, the more they value it. By doing all the work, you’re actually robbing him of the "thrill of the chase" that triggers dopamine in the male brain.

Lena: That’s fascinating! So, being too available actually kills the romantic tension. It’s like we need to flip the script from being the chaser to being the "prize" he has to win over.

Miles: Exactly. It’s about shifting from a "cool girl" friend to a high-value woman with an air of mystery. Let’s explore how to use specific psychological triggers to move out of the friend zone and start that romantic pursuit.

Miles: You know, Lena, the first thing we have to dismantle is the idea that being "easy to love" is the fastest way to a ring. It sounds like a beautiful sentiment, but in the world of attraction, it often translates to being "taken for granted." Think about the most valuable things in the world—gold, diamonds, high-end art. Why are they valuable?

Lena: Because they’re rare. You can’t just find them lying around on the sidewalk.

Miles: Exactly. That is the Scarcity Principle. When something is abundant and always available, the human brain devalues it. If you are always the one texting him good morning, always the one suggesting the weekend plans, and always the one available at 2:00 AM to listen to his work drama, you’ve become an infinite resource. There is no urgency for him to "claim" you because he feels like he already has 100% access to you without any commitment.

Lena: So, by being the perfect "best friend," we’re actually making ourselves less desirable as a wife? That’s a tough pill to swallow. I mean, wouldn’t he want a wife who is reliable and supportive?

Miles: Eventually, yes. But desire and reliability are two different engines. Reliability builds comfort, but scarcity and mystery build obsession. One of the sources I was looking at mentioned that the masculine pursuit instinct—that primal urge to protect and win—only activates when he feels your "emotional rarity." If he can predict every move you make, his brain goes into "satiation mode." It’s like eating your favorite meal every single day for a year. It might be delicious, but you aren’t "chasing" it anymore.

Lena: I love that analogy. It’s like we have to move from being the "daily meal" to being the "exclusive reservation" he has to book weeks in advance. But how do we do that without being cold or playing games? I don't want to hurt the friendship we already have.

Miles: It’s not about being cold; it’s about being "self-possessed." There’s a huge difference. A cold person is trying to punish someone. A self-possessed person is simply busy living a life that doesn’t revolve around one individual. One of the best ways to start this shift is through "Intentional Distance." You don't ghost him, but you stop being the "background noise" of his life. You develop your own social circles, you say "no" to some hangouts because you actually have other things going on, and you don't always respond to texts immediately.

Lena: That reminds me of the "Zeigarnik Effect" we’ve talked about before—the idea that the brain remembers uncompleted tasks better than completed ones. If you’re always available, you’re a "completed task" in his mind. But if there’s a little mystery about where you are or what you’re doing, you become an "incomplete task." His mind starts circling back to you, wondering what you're up to.

Miles: Precisely. And that "wondering" is where the dopamine starts to fire. He’s not getting the reward of your attention on demand anymore, so his brain starts working harder to get it. That is the beginning of the chase. You’re essentially retraining his brain to see your attention as a prize to be earned, rather than a right he’s entitled to.

Lena: So, the first step is really a mental one for the listener. You have to stop seeing yourself as his "support system" and start seeing yourself as a high-value woman who has a mission and a life of her own. If he wants a seat at your table, he has to bring something more than just "friendship vibes" to the party.

Miles: You hit the nail on the head. It’s about creating that "emotional gravity" where you are the still center of the room, and he is the one who has to lean in to get closer to you. When you stop leaning forward, he is forced to move his feet if he wants to stay in your orbit.

Lena: Okay, so we’ve started creating some distance and reclaiming our value. But what about the way we actually interact when we are together? A lot of women in this "best friend" trap feel like they’ve become "one of the bros." I read about a guy who went on 18 dates with a girl and she still called him her "bro." How do we avoid that?

Miles: That 18-date story is a classic example of "compliance." He let her dictate the terms—daytime dates, group dates, bringing friends along. If you want to move from "bro" to "romantic interest," you have to reintroduce "Feminine Polarity." Polarity is the tension between opposites. If you’re acting exactly like his guy friends—cracking the same jokes, being super casual, maybe even being a bit "unpolished" around him—there’s no romantic friction.

Lena: Right, the sparks come from the difference, not the similarity. So, does that mean we need to be more "traditionally" feminine?

Miles: It’s more about "sensual awareness" and "depth." Think about your body language. Are you leaning back, relaxed, taking up space like a friend, or are you moving with intention? One of the sources suggests moving and speaking more slowly. Fast talking and fidgeting are signs of anxiety or a desire to please. Slowing down your speech and your movements signals a quiet, magnetic confidence. It forces him to slow down and pay more attention to you. It creates a "hush" in the interaction that feels very different from a loud, platonic hangout.

Lena: That’s so true. There’s something very intimate about silence. If you’re always rushing to fill the silence with jokes or chatter, you’re keeping things in the "safe" zone of friendship. But if you can hold eye contact for just a second longer than expected and let a silence hang... that’s where the tension builds.

Miles: Absolutely. Silence is the oxygen that desire breathes. And then there’s the "Physical Touch" aspect. Friends touch differently than lovers. If you want to shift his perspective, you have to introduce "Intentional Touch." This isn't about being aggressive; it’s about micro-signals. A light touch on the arm when you’re laughing at something he said, or leaning in a bit closer than a "friend" would when you’re looking at something together.

Lena: And we have to be careful about the context of where we’re meeting, right? The source materials were very clear that daytime "run club" dates or coffee meetups often reinforce the friend zone.

Miles: Oh, for sure. If you’re only meeting him for lunch or during a hike with five other people, you’re in "activity buddy" territory. To trigger that romantic desire, you need to change the environment. Evening dates, dim lighting, one-on-one time—these are the settings where attraction can actually bloom. If he suggests a daytime hangout, you can say, "I’m actually busy during the day, but I’d love to grab a drink on Friday night." By shifting the time and the setting, you’re "clear-coding" your intentions without having to give a big, awkward speech.

Lena: I love that term, "clear-coding." You’re setting a boundary and a tone simultaneously. You’re saying, "I’m a woman who does evening dates," not just a friend who’s available for a quick sandwich between errands.

Miles: Exactly. And you have to watch out for what the sources call "Cock-blockers and Clam-slammers"—those friends he tries to bring along to keep things platonic. If he tries to turn your one-on-one time into a group hang, that’s a signal he’s trying to stay safe in the friend zone. You have to be willing to say, "I was actually looking forward to just us catching up. Let's do the group thing another time." Standing your ground like that shows you have standards for how your time is spent. It makes him realize that access to you isn't just a free-for-all for his entire social circle.

Lena: Miles, I found this really counterintuitive tip in one of the sources. It says that the best way to bond with a man isn't by doing him a favor, but by asking him for one. That feels so backwards! I thought if I was the "perfect, helpful friend," he’d realize he couldn't live without me.

Miles: That is a classic "Nice Girl" mistake. It’s actually called the Benjamin Franklin effect. Research shows that when we do something for someone else, our brains justify the effort by concluding that we must really like that person. It’s a form of cognitive dissonance. If I spend two hours helping you fix your car, my brain thinks, "Why did I do that? I must really value Lena."

Lena: So, by always being the one "giving, giving, giving," we’re actually making ourselves more attached to him, while he’s just sitting back and receiving?

Miles: Precisely. You’re doing all the emotional and physical "investing," which makes you more obsessed with him, but he hasn't had to put any "skin in the game." To make him desire you and eventually see you as "wife material," he needs to invest his time, energy, and resources into you. This triggers his masculine instinct to "provide and protect."

Lena: Give me some examples. What kind of favors are we talking about?

Miles: It should start small. Ask for his advice on a work situation. Ask him to help you move a heavy piece of furniture or look at a weird noise your car is making. It’s not about being a "damsel in distress"; it’s about giving him an "opportunity to win." Men love to feel competent and useful around a woman they admire. When he helps you, he’s "investing" in you. And the more he invests, the more he values the "asset"—which, in this case, is the relationship.

Lena: That is such a powerful shift in perspective. Instead of trying to "prove" my value by being his unpaid assistant, I’m "allowing" him to demonstrate his value to me. It creates a much healthier dynamic.

Miles: Right. And it leads into "Selective Warmth." One of the most magnetic traits a woman can have is being "warm but not available." If you’re a constant fountain of praise and affection, he doesn't have to work for it. But if you give him that "warm smile" or a genuine compliment only when he’s actually stepped up—like when he’s helped you with something or taken the lead on a plan—it becomes a reward. He starts subconsciously seeking that reward.

Lena: It’s like positive reinforcement. You’re training the behavior you want to see. If he acts like a "bro," he gets "bro" energy back. If he acts like a leader and a protector, he gets that soft, feminine warmth.

Miles: Exactly. And you have to be careful not to "over-explain" or "over-share" during this process. A lot of women think that "deep emotional intimacy" is the same thing as "sharing every trauma and daily thought." But in the early stages of shifting a friendship to romance, over-sharing kills the mystery. You want to reveal yourself in layers. Like a good book, he should want to "turn the page" to find out more. If you give him the whole plot in the first chapter, he’s finished the book and he’s ready to move on to the next one.

Lena: So, "Selective Disclosure." Keep some of your hobbies, your past, and your future plans to yourself for a while. Let him "discover" them through conversation over time. This makes him feel like he’s "earning" access to your inner world.

Miles: You've got it. It all comes back to that idea of "investment." If you give everything away for free, it has no perceived value. But if he has to work, listen, and show up for you to get those pieces of your heart, those pieces become incredibly precious to him.

Lena: We talked about how "best friends" already have a lot of history and inside jokes. That’s usually seen as a good thing, but it can also keep you stuck in that "comfortable" zone. How do we use that history to our advantage without staying "just one of the guys"?

Miles: You take those existing inside jokes and you add what I call a "Romantic Undertone." You plant seeds. For example, instead of just saying, "Remember that time we got lost downtown? That was hilarious," you could say, "Remember when we got lost downtown? You were so calm and in charge... it was actually kind of attractive. I’m definitely looking for that 'good in a crisis' vibe in a partner."

Lena: Ooh, that’s smooth! You’re taking a platonic memory and "reframing" it with a romantic lens. You’re literally telling him, "I see you as a potential partner," without making it a heavy "we need to talk" moment.

Miles: Exactly. You’re "clear-coding" your attraction. You’re letting him know he "affects" you. Another way to do this is through "Complimenting Differently." Friends give "friendly" compliments like, "You’re so funny" or "Nice shirt." Romantic interests give "intimate" compliments. Try something like, "I love the way your eyes light up when you talk about your passion for music... it’s really magnetic."

Lena: That feels so much more personal. It shows you’re "noticing" him in a way that a casual friend wouldn't. It creates a "Micro-moment of Intimacy."

Miles: Right. And you have to watch his reaction. If he leans in, smiles, or returns the compliment, you’ve got a "Green Light." If he gets awkward or tries to change the subject back to "bro" talk, he might be resisting the shift. But the key is to keep these moments "low-stakes." You’re not demanding a confession of love; you’re just "seasoning" the conversation with a little romantic tension.

Lena: It’s like a "test of the waters." You’re seeing if he’s willing to play in that romantic space with you. What if he mentions other women? That’s a common thing "best friends" do—they give each other dating advice. How do we handle that?

Miles: That is a major "Warning Sign" if he’s doing it frequently. If he’s constantly asking you for advice on how to get with other girls, he might really just see you as a "sister" figure. In that case, you have to "Set a Boundary." You could say, "You know, I’m actually not the best person to give you dating advice anymore. I’ve started seeing you a bit differently lately, and it feels a little weird to talk about you with other girls."

Lena: Wow, that’s bold! But it’s so honest. It forces him to realize that the "safe" friendship dynamic has changed. It removes the "Safety Net" he’s been using.

Miles: It does. And it’s a form of "Authenticity Verification." You’re being true to your feelings instead of "performing" the role of the supportive friend while your heart is breaking. If he knows he can’t use you as an emotional crutch for his other romantic exploits, he has to decide if he’s willing to risk losing you altogether or if he wants to step up and explore what’s between the two of you.

Lena: It’s that "Willingness to Walk Away" we keep hearing about. You have to value yourself enough to say, "I can’t be the 'best friend' who watches you fall for someone else. I want more, and if you can’t give that to me, I have to move on."

Miles: That is the ultimate high-value move. It’s not a threat; it’s a statement of fact. A woman who knows her worth doesn't "wait around" in the friend zone hoping to be picked. She presents the opportunity, and if he doesn't take it, she takes her "treasure" elsewhere. That "fear of loss" is often the only thing that will finally trigger a man to move from "passive friend" to "obsessive pursuer."

Lena: Miles, I was fascinated by this concept of the "Imprint Moment"—the idea that there’s one specific moment where a man’s perspective of a woman shifts forever. How do we create that?

Miles: An Imprint Moment usually happens when there’s a sudden "Emotional Contrast." Imagine you’ve always been the loud, funny, reliable best friend. Then, one evening, you’re in a quiet setting, you’re dressed a bit more elegantly, and you’re being very "still" and "soft." You look at him, you hold the gaze, and you say something with real depth—maybe about a dream you have or a value you hold dear.

Lena: So, the contrast between the "daily version" of me and this "deep, mysterious version" is what creates the spark?

Miles: Exactly. It’s like a "glitch in the matrix" for his brain. He thinks, "Wait, who is this? I thought I knew her." That "uncertainty" triggers a spike in attention. He’s no longer on "autopilot" with you. He’s suddenly very present, trying to "decode" this new energy. One of the sources calls this "Emotional Self-Possession." You’re not seeking his approval; you’re just "existing" in your own power, and it’s incredibly magnetic.

Lena: It reminds me of "Dark Feminine Energy"—the side that is a bit more mysterious, a bit more "unpredictable." Not in a chaotic way, but in a way that says, "You don't own me, and you don't fully know me."

Miles: Spot on. And it’s about "Pacing." Most people in the friend zone are "over-exposed." You know everything about each other. To create an Imprint Moment, you have to reintroduce "Privacy." Stop telling him every little thing that happens in your day. When he asks what you’ve been up to, give him a "headline" but not the whole story. Let him "fill in the blanks" with his imagination.

Lena: "Imagination is the engine of desire." If he has to "wonder" what you’re thinking or who you’re with, he’s "investing" mental energy into you. He’s "chasing" the information.

Miles: And that leads to "Competitive Motivation." You don't have to "manufacture" jealousy by lying about other guys, but you should "Show You Have Options" simply by having a full life. If you’re at a party and you’re talking to other people, or if you mention a new hobby where you’re meeting new people, it subtly reminds him that you are a "desirable asset" in the "social marketplace."

Lena: It’s the "Social Proof" concept. If other people want your time and attention, he’ll naturally value it more. It’s like seeing a line outside a restaurant—you instinctively think, "That place must be good; I want to go there."

Miles: Exactly. But the most important part of the Imprint Moment is the "Eye Contact." Research shows that prolonged eye contact can actually trigger the release of phenylethylamine—the "love chemical"—in the brain. If you can hold his gaze during a moment of "Emotional Contrast," you are literally "rewiring" his nervous system to associate you with romantic intensity rather than platonic comfort.

Lena: So, it’s about being brave enough to "hold the space." To not look away, to not make a joke, to just... be there in your feminine power and let him feel it.

Miles: That is the "Ignition Point." From that moment on, he can’t "un-see" you as a romantic possibility. He might still be scared, he might still resist, but the "seed" of obsession has been planted.

Lena: Okay, Miles, let’s say we’ve successfully shifted the dynamic. He’s chasing, he’s pursuing, he’s seeing us in a romantic light. How do we move from "dating" to "he wants to make me his wife"? That’s the ultimate goal for our listener.

Miles: This is where "Reliability" meets "High-Value Boundaries." To be "wife material," you have to demonstrate that you are a "stable foundation," but you also have to show that you have "standards that must be met." A man doesn't propose to a woman because she’s a "perfect servant"; he proposes because he fears the idea of a future without her.

Lena: That’s a huge distinction. It’s not about how much we do for him; it’s about who we are to him.

Miles: Right. One of the keys is "Showcasing Compatibility" through "Shared Experiences." But not just "fun" experiences—"meaningful" ones. Discuss your long-term goals, your values, your views on family and career. If you’ve been "best friends," you probably already know some of this, but you need to discuss it in the context of a "shared future."

Lena: "Intentionality Mapping." We have to be clear that we’re not just looking for a "situationship" or a "forever girlfriend" role. How do we bring that up without sounding like we’re "pressuring" him?

Miles: You frame it as your "Standard," not a "Demand." You can say, "I’m at a stage in my life where I’m really looking to build a long-term, exclusive partnership that leads to marriage. I love what we’re exploring, and I want to make sure we’re heading in the same direction." This is "Emotional Self-Respect Operationalized." You’re letting him know what the "price of admission" is for your heart.

Lena: And if he’s not ready? If he says he "doesn't want labels" or he’s "not sure about marriage"?

Miles: Then you have to be "Willing to Walk Away." This is the "Decision Point." A high-value woman doesn't wait around for a man to "change his mind." She knows her time is her most precious asset. If he can’t meet her standards, she gracefully exits. Paradoxically, the moment a man realizes he is actually going to lose you because he won’t commit, that is often when his "Masculine Instinct" kicks into overdrive to "claim" you.

Lena: It’s the "Loss Aversion" principle. We value what we’re about to lose more than what we already have. But we have to be sincere about it. We can’t just "threaten" to leave as a tactic.

Miles: Precisely. It has to be a "Dignified Exit." You say, "I respect where you’re at, but it doesn't align with what I’m looking for. I think it’s best if we take some space so I can focus on finding the kind of partnership I need." This isn't a "breakup" over a fight; it’s a "alignment issue." And it’s incredibly powerful. He sees that you value yourself more than you value his attention.

Lena: That is the ultimate "Alpha" move for a woman. It shows you’re a "Whole Person" who doesn't need him, but chooses him—as long as the terms are right. That is the kind of woman a man wants to "claim" forever.

Miles: Exactly. Marriage is a "Mutual Agreement to Protect the Structure." If you’ve shown him that you can build a structure of trust, fun, and depth, but that you are also the "Architect" who won’t let the building fall into disrepair or ambiguity... he’ll want to sign that lifetime contract.

Lena: Miles, we’ve covered so much ground. Let’s break this down into a "Practical Playbook" for our listener. If she wants to start shifting this "best friend" dynamic today, what are the first few moves?

Miles: Step One: "Reclaim Your Time." Stop being 100% available. Stop being the "first responder" to his texts. Let some silences breathe. Start filling your schedule with things that have nothing to do with him. This creates the "Scarcity" he needs to start noticing your absence.

Lena: Step Two: "Shift the Context." No more daytime coffee runs or group hikes. If he wants to see you, suggest an evening activity—one-on-one. Change your presentation—move a little slower, dress with a bit more "Intentional Polarity." Let him see the "Woman," not just the "Friend."

Miles: Step Three: "Ask for a Favor." Stop being the "Emotional Support System" and start letting him "invest" in you. Ask for his advice, his help with a task, his expertise. Trigger that "Masculine Instinct" to provide. Every time he helps you, he’s subconsciously "claiming" a little more of the relationship.

Lena: Step Four: "Introduce Subtle Flirting and Romantic Undertones." Use those inside jokes to plant seeds of attraction. Give him "Intimate Compliments" that show you’re noticing his depth. Test the waters with a lingering gaze and see how he responds.

Miles: Step Five: "Communicate Your Intentions Clearly (Eventually)." Don't stay in the "Gray Zone." If the "chase" is happening, but he’s still avoiding the "label," have the "Clarity Conversation." State your standards for a long-term partnership leading to marriage. Don't ask "What are we?"; tell him "This is what I’m looking for."

Lena: Step Six: "The Ultimate High-Value Move—The Willingness to Walk Away." If he can’t or won’t meet your standards for commitment, you must be prepared to gracefully exit. This isn't about "winning" a game; it’s about "honoring" your own life path. If he’s "your person," the fear of losing you will be the catalyst that drives him to propose. If he isn't, you’ve just freed yourself to find the man who will obsess over you.

Miles: And remember the "70/30 Rule" for conversation—let him speak 70% of the time. Be a "Deep Listener." When he feels truly "seen" and "heard" by a woman who also has high boundaries and mystery, he will become "emotionally addicted" to your presence.

Lena: I love that. It’s a balance of being "soft and receptive" when you’re together, but "strong and self-directed" in your overall life. It’s the "Irresistible Stillness" that makes a man want to "step into your world."

Miles: Exactly. You’re not "tricking" him; you’re "inviting" him into a higher-quality dynamic. You’re showing him that a "Best Friend" who is also a "Romantic Prize" is the most valuable thing he could ever hope to have.

Lena: Before we wrap up, we should probably mention a few things that could "backfire." What are the biggest mistakes women make when trying to escape the friend zone?

Miles: The biggest one is "Over-Efforting." If you try too hard to be "sexy" or "mysterious" all of a sudden, it can feel like a "performance" or a "game." It will trigger his "Inauthenticity Alarm." This shift has to come from a real place of "Self-Worth." You’re not acting busy; you are busy building a great life.

Lena: Right, "Knowledge Theater" vs. "Relational Competence." He can tell if you’re just following a "script" from a podcast or if you’ve actually had an "Internal Shift."

Miles: Another pitfall is "Manufacturing Jealousy." Trying to make him jealous by "parading" other guys in front of him usually backfires. It makes you look manipulative and damages the "Trust Foundation" you’ve built as friends. Instead, focus on "Social Proof"—just naturally having a full, social life where you’re appreciated by many people.

Lena: And what about "The Premature Confession"? We saw in the sources that "dumping your feelings" all at once can be a huge mistake.

Miles: Oh, absolutely. A "Love Bomb" confession creates massive "Pressure." It forces him to make a "Yes or No" decision before he’s had a chance to "feel" the shift in attraction. It’s much better to "Show, Not Tell." Let your actions, your pacing, and your "Subtle Flirting" do the talking. Let him be the one who eventually asks, "Wait, what is happening between us?"

Lena: It’s the "Slow Burn" vs. the "Explosion." The slow burn builds a "steady fire" of desire, while the explosion just "scares people away."

Miles: Precisely. And finally, don't forget to "Nurture the Friendship within the Romance." Once you’ve moved into "Dating" territory, don't lose the "fun, shared history" that made you best friends in the first place. That "Soil of Friendship" is what will make the "Flower of Marriage" resilient over the long term.

Lena: It’s the "Soul-Deep Love" we read about. A relationship built on "Sparks" and "Soil." You want to be the woman he’s "obsessed" with, but also the person he "trusts" more than anyone else in the world.

Miles: If you can master that balance—the "High-Value Prize" who is also his "Deepest Connection"—you won’t just get him to chase you; you’ll get him to thank his lucky stars every day that he got to marry his best friend.

Lena: Miles, this has been an incredibly eye-opening conversation. I think our listener now has a real "Strategy" for moving from the "Friend Zone" to the "Alter." It’s about more than just "rizz" or "tricks"; it’s about a fundamental shift in how she perceives her own value.

Miles: It really is. It’s about moving from "Seeking" to "Being." When you are a woman of high value, scarcity, and depth, the "chase" happens naturally. You don't have to "make" him do anything; his own masculine wiring will drive him to move toward you.

Lena: I love that idea—that the "pursuit" is a natural response to the right kind of "energy." So, to everyone listening, take a moment today to reflect on your current dynamic. Are you "leaning forward" too much? Are you "giving away the treasure" for free?

Miles: Think about one "Practical Move" you can make this week. Maybe it’s saying "no" to a last-minute hangout, or asking him for help with a small project, or simply holding that "eye contact" a second longer during a quiet moment.

Lena: Small shifts in "Energy" lead to massive shifts in "Reality." You have the power to "Clear-code" your future. You don't have to settle for being the "best friend" if your heart wants to be the "wife."

Miles: Exactly. Trust the process, trust your value, and most importantly, be willing to "Walk Toward the Life You Want," even if it means leaving the "Comfortable Gray Zone" behind.

Lena: That is such a powerful note to end on. Thank you so much for exploring this with me today, Miles. It’s been a fascinating journey into the human heart.

Miles: The pleasure was all mine, Lena. I can’t wait to hear how these "Psychological Shifts" transform things for our listeners.

Lena: Absolutely. And thank you to everyone for tuning in. We hope this conversation gives you the clarity and the courage to become the "Romantic Prize" you truly are. Take some time to reflect on what we’ve discussed—maybe even journal about your "Standards" for a shared future. You deserve a love that is both "Steady and Obsessive."

Miles: You really do. Stay self-possessed, stay mysterious, and keep building that "Life Worth Joining." Thanks for listening.