Discover how NYC's BoxGroup built a venture capital empire by being entrepreneurs' first conversation, backing Ramp, Plaid, and Warby Parker before they had traction.

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Miles: You know what's fascinating about venture capital? Most firms chase the hot deals everyone's talking about, but there's this New York-based fund called BoxGroup that's built their entire reputation on being the *first* conversation.
Blythe: The first conversation - I love that. What do you mean exactly?
Miles: Well, they literally say "Before there is a company, there is a conversation - we want to be that first conversation." They're not waiting for traction or proof of concept. They're comfortable with what they call "a lot of assumptions, more vision than traction, and raw product."
Blythe: That's such a different approach from most VCs who want to see metrics and growth before they'll even take a meeting.
Miles: Exactly! And it's worked incredibly well for them - they've backed companies like Ramp, Plaid, and Warby Parker at the earliest stages. What's really interesting is their investment philosophy around "founder market fit" - this idea that certain teams can unlock specific markets even before they've found product-market fit.
Blythe: So they're betting on the people and the vision rather than the numbers. Let's dive into how this early-stage philosophy actually works in practice.