What is the "symmetry objection" in the context of divine revelation?

The symmetry objection is the philosophical argument that the evidence used to defend one specific religious revelation is often identical to the evidence used by competing religions. For example, a Christian may claim the Holy Spirit proves the Bible is true, while a Muslim may claim the beauty of the Quran proves it is the final word. Because these personal, self-authenticating experiences lead to contradictory truth claims, they essentially cancel each other out as reliable external evidence, creating an evidential stalemate.

How does the "Documentary Hypothesis" challenge the idea of a single, unified divine word?

The Documentary Hypothesis, popularized by scholars like Julius Wellhausen, suggests that the first five books of the Bible were not written by a single author like Moses, but are actually a "patchwork quilt" of four distinct source documents (J, E, D, and P) edited together over centuries. This research indicates that the text reflects the competing political and theological agendas of different committees and time periods rather than a single, direct download from the divine. This makes it difficult to view the Bible as a "flat" revelation where every command carries the same eternal weight.

What is the "Outsider Test for Faith," and how can it be used as a moral tool?

The Outsider Test for Faith, proposed by John Loftus, suggests that individuals should evaluate their own religious claims with the same level of skepticism they apply to religions they do not believe in. In a moral context, if a listener hears about a "divine command" for violence in a foreign tradition and immediately recognizes it as human superstition or tribalism, they should apply that same critical lens to "texts of terror" within their own scripture. This test serves as a "BS detector" to help distinguish between universal moral truths and ancient cultural biases.

How do modern religious institutions reconcile ancient "texts of terror" with modern ethics?

Many institutions use a "pedagogical approach" or "salvific truth" loophole to handle difficult passages. For instance, Catholic theology suggests that God "accommodated" Himself to human language and limitations, revealing truth in stages. Under this view, the Old Testament might be seen as a "Beta version" that reflects the primitive state of ancient people, while later revelations (like the life of Christ) serve as the "Final version" used to interpret and override the violent cultural norms of the earlier texts.

Why is the "internal witness of the Spirit" considered a problematic guide for objective truth?

While personal spiritual experiences feel intensely real and "noetic" to the individual, they are considered problematic because they occur across all religious traditions and often deliver contradictory messages. If the "spirit" tells one person a specific group is an enemy and tells another person that same group is sacred, the feeling of certainty cannot be a reliable guide to objective reality. Instead, it suggests that such feelings are psychological phenomena rather than a neutral arbiter of divine policy.

Biblical revelation and the problem of divine commands

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6 avr. 2026

Philosophy Spirituality History

If the Bible contains commands for genocide, how do we test modern revelation? Explore the moral and logical challenges of claiming divine authority.

Meilleure citation de Biblical revelation and the problem of divine commands

If the feeling of certainty is the same across different traditions but the content is contradictory, then the feeling cannot be a reliable guide to the truth; it is a psychological fact, not a theological one.

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Question posée

What are the criticisms of “revelation” found in scripture, or Bible , that have held up over time. That Continue be not well answered. For instance, some Christian’s say that the spirit still speaks, but it can’t contradict the Bible. So would they be okay with the church deciding to genocide Utaha, because they are Mormon. Such as the Bible had God genocide nations. It seems very difficult to trust not just one persons , but many .. even if it was good writing.. to say it is life or death.

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Biblical revelation and the problem of divine commands

29 min

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Philosophy Spirituality History

If the Bible contains commands for genocide, how do we test modern revelation? Explore the moral and logical challenges of claiming divine authority.

Meilleure citation de Biblical revelation and the problem of divine commands

If the feeling of certainty is the same across different traditions but the content is contradictory, then the feeling cannot be a reliable guide to the truth; it is a psychological fact, not a theological one.

Points clés

The Paradox of Divine Command

0:00

Jackson: You know, Lena, I was thinking about how many people say they feel the Spirit guiding them today, but they always add this huge disclaimer: it can’t ever contradict the Bible. It sounds safe, right? But then you hit the "texts of terror"—those Old Testament passages where God commands the total destruction of entire nations. It makes you wonder: if a modern church claimed the Spirit told them to wipe out a specific group, like the Mormons in Utah, because of those biblical precedents, would that actually be "consistent"?

0:32

Lena: That is the ultimate "revelation paradox." If the Bible is the final yardstick, but it contains commands for genocide, how do we decide what counts as a "true" word from God today? It’s not just about one person’s claim; it’s about why we trust these ancient writings as life-or-death authority.

0:48

Jackson: Exactly. And it’s even more complicated when you realize that every major religion makes these same claims of divine authority, often in direct contradiction to one another.

0:58

Lena: Right, and that leads us to the "symmetry objection"—the idea that the same evidence used to defend one revelation is used by everyone else to defend theirs. Let’s explore how these conflicting claims of revelation challenge the very foundation of how we determine religious truth.

The Evidential Stalemate of Diverse Truths

The Scalpel of Historical Criticism

The Mirage of the Literal Word

The Moral Cost of Sacred Certainty

The Ghost in the Machine of Tradition

The Psychological Lure of the "Internal Witness"

The De-Judaizing of the Divine

Practical Playbook for the Discerning Listener

Closing Reflection and the Weight of Choice

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